driving thru the gap: On Whiteness with Emma Mincks

redskins & racism

 

Chas & Melissa visiting Emma in New Mexico
Chas & Melissa visiting Emma in New Mexico

Is “white people” a helpful term if we desire to move beyond racism–beyond defining one another by color? And what does it actually mean to be white? Why do white people get offended at being called white? Why are the Redskins racist? How can we begin to know the extent of what we don’t even know we don’t know? How can we see beyond the waters we swim in? These are some of the questions brought up in this discussion with Ms. Mincks whose experiences range from the Community Conversations in Rapid City, South Dakota (known as Racist City to some) to her PhD studies in Victorian Literature that expose the underlying capitalist/settler colonialist structures of our current western ways, such as our agreement to the 24 hour clock. In this discussion, Emma tells a story of growing up very aware of the geographic divide in Rapid City, known as “the Gap,” an appropriate term for the gap we’re looking to bridge between humans, but particularly First Nations and “white people” in these so-called United States.

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Here is the poem Emma wrote & shared with us in the recording:

dear white women,

we have been

systematically,

emphatically

brainwashed,

rewarded for ignoring

our own endless desires, for

counting and measuring

ourselves and others.

For conforming,

attempting to perfect the denial

of our true humanity.

white women, listen. we

must stop.

measuring our worth

against the GDP

so we can free ourselves

& stop perpetuating white supremacy!

Dear white women,

don’t you understand?

your anger and

your ability to take

so readily

derives from a

lack

within you.

Find your heart,

and quickly—

wherever you hid it.

 

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2 thoughts on “driving thru the gap: On Whiteness with Emma Mincks

  1. INTERESTING OPEN THE DOOR ARE WE GOOD LISTENERS? EMOTIONS? I THINK WE VICTIMIZE OURSELVES AND THEN DEFEND OUR WOMENNESS. WE SHOULD PODCAST ALL AREAS. I THINK THERE IS URBAN FOLK, RANCHERS, FARMERS AND THEN THE RED NATION. I ENJOY THE RAPPORT OF RELATIONSHIP. IT’S TIME HAS COME. WOMEN ARE THE TEACHERS. I’VE MET MANY WINYAN EACH UNIQUE IN THEIR EXISTENCE. I APPLAUD YOU, THIS IS TOO LONG. HAVE A GOOD DAY. I’M HAVING ONE IN PEEVER FLATS, SD

  2. Hello Darlene!
    Thank you so much for supporting us with your listening & your comment. I’m curious to know what you meant by “this is too long”–the podcast length? We welcome feedback as we’re both new to all aspects of this form & I want to be sure the value of these conversations is accessible & enjoyable, as well as educational.
    Best wishes from Melissa in Boise, Idaho 🙂

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